These are my winter boots to use with the quilted liners which I already had so hence the 12.5 wide to compensate. My normal size is 12.5 regular in the Belleville brand. Belleville's in gortex mind you tend to billow over the sole more than say an Altama , The sole is a bit different between some models. Holler if you need help
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